He takes another breath and looks around before stopping their forward progress and stepping off to the side. There's no one nearby, but he doesn't think they should risk walking into someone while discussing this.

"There are Templars here. One of the most callous I've known when it comes to mage lives is here, one who has called for the Rite of Annulment at Kinloch Hold. Cullen Rutherford. However." She needs this however, he needs this however. "So is a former Knight-Commander who is the reason I've a hope of change, Alayre. He believes in mage freedom and rights. In equality. I've known one other Templar to be kind toward mages as well. Many Templars, possibly even most, are murderers. But some are not. And if we are to find a permanent freedom without that fearful, constant watch over your shoulder, we need those few. We cannot, as much as I don't like saying this, hold our freedom without them. Not yet. We're untrained in how to fight Templars, while they know exactly how to take down mages."

Anders searches her eyes as he pauses. "She does not understand. She does mean well. But that doesn't make her less. It simply means she's not had the same struggle as you and I. Let her have her hope, and let us encourage that hope, because freedom will come if enough mages believe we have it. If mages see our choices and options and understand that they are now ours we will be free because the Templars will not be able to cage us again. We need her, and she needs us."