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[OPEN TO MAGES]
WHO: Mages, mages, more mages. I guess non-mages can sneak in or be dragged along by friends, but they will be glowered fiercely at by Daylen if he knows.
WHAT: Mage meeting
WHEN: 3 Firstfall
WHERE: What would be Solas' room if Solas were there.
NOTES: Feel free to mingle/threadjack/and anything else you might think of! A top level comment will be made for the meeting itself with no particular order for commenting. There will probably be discussions of mage rights and such. I will edit if any warnings come up.
WHAT: Mage meeting
WHEN: 3 Firstfall
WHERE: What would be Solas' room if Solas were there.
NOTES: Feel free to mingle/threadjack/and anything else you might think of! A top level comment will be made for the meeting itself with no particular order for commenting. There will probably be discussions of mage rights and such. I will edit if any warnings come up.
It's not exactly the biggest room, but on the plus side it's not in a terrible state of disrepair either. In case anyone isn't sure this is the right room there is a sign on the door indicating it is for the mage meeting. If that isn't enough, it is full of chairs. Arguably too many chairs for a room of this size. Especially since they are arranged in a circle for convenience of being able to talk rather than making the most of the space.
Hello, mages. Hope you're all ready to argue.
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I'm not without sympathy, and I know there's danger, but that's no reason to enforce one way upon all of us. And yes, that was the original plan. I'd thought we were going to move beyond that.
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Templars can protect, and help us. [It's an agreement to Oran, but she also looks to Pel and Korrin, because Templars are not the issue here. One step at a time.] But don't we want them to listen to us, first? We can decide on such things once we decide what we want ourselves to be.
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[ This comment directed to Oran, for all intents and purposes, is good humoured, nor designed to cut into the conversation. Acknowledgement that there is nuance here that Dorian is lacking, as a foreigner, having listened quietly while the young man spoke.
He tips that attention -- unsettlingly cattish, good humoured or not -- to Sabriel. ]
Quite so. Discussions of Templars and what to do about them and how we do or do not need them must be tabled until such a time as we have a single message to give them. Right now, we're all too divided. Not to belabour the point, but we truly need to remember our commonalities. No one expects the Dalish to set aside their traditions, nor can we expect the same of Circle mages, but no one is marking their face or undergoing a Harrowing in order to remain within the ranks of the Inquisition.
An unaffiliated council to act as a go-between for the mages at large -- all of them -- and the Inquisition advisers and, inevitably, the Templars, seems the fairest, most sensible topic to settle on today, unless we'd like to remain in this room until Wintermarch.
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((PMed))
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She glances up when Sina is finished. Deep breath in, then out.]
If it's a council, each group should elect their own representative. If you want to call it a Circle, the Dalish must have a voice and we're not to be kept like prisoners.
[These are good points. Really.]
Any more than you would expect to worship our gods, don't expect us to submit to the Chantry or its beliefs about mages. Freedom is our highest virtue.
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Any circle that treated its mages like prisoners had lost its way. I don't think there are any of us who want that.
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Tch, you and your common sense. What will come next, a peaceable arrangement?
[She rolls her eyes at Daylen's comment, though, not impressed.]
'Protection', sure. Well, some of us don't need or want that sort. I thought we made that clear.
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You've also made it clear you don't understand what sort of protection it's supposed to be. With all respect, I don't think you have the experience to speak with such disgust of a place I spent most of my life.
I appreciate all of us have had poor experiences with the templars here, and I know many of the circles became something terrible before the end, but not all of them were. I grew up in Kinloch Hold and I couldn't have asked for a better home. It wasn't just the templars who protected us. It provided us with a place where mages can protect each other. And be together. How many places are there besides that where we're not in the minority?
You don't have to agree, but please at least listen and remember what you've seen isn't all there is to know.
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[ Adelaide tips her head in Daylen's direction. ]
My students and I came here from Andoral's Reach for protection. One provided by a sense of community and solidarity within the Inquisition, until the night of the wake we were not put in danger if only for our tendency to keep to ourselves. Something more concrete would be to our benefit.
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And I was never allowed to leave the Circle though I had passed my Harrowing and all I wished to do was be a healer. I've tired of hearing "Oh, well those Templars were doing it wrong and shouldn't be thought of as the norm." It was normal for me. Just as you had an easier time at Kinloch and I had an easier time at Montsimmard than those at Kirkwall does not mean the old system is infallible. Just as any mage can be a danger, any Templar can be too.
[ She stops, sighs, and shakes her head. It seems no matter what, they always are pulled back to discussing Templars as long as there are those among them who want something like the Circle back. ]
It is clear that some here wish to be under the Templars' protection again, but you will not force every mage in Skyhold to agree to be as well. But that part of the discussion will have to come another time. For now, we must agree on how best to serve the Inquisition, and the council with varied representation seems the best way.
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Agreed. And if councilors are elected, each group has their opinions represented and their values taken into account. Including the ones who felt safe in their Circles and want similar protection.
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I can live with that. As long as there's room for those who have no wish to be part of a Circle, that's all I want. We don't need to agree on everything, but we do need to work together...and not force one way of being a mage on everyone.
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[That's muttered quietly, more to himself than Christine or anyone else. He's tired of his views on templars being all anyone seems to get from anything he says.
Then louder:]
I won't lie and pretend I wouldn't rather we had our own circle here, but we need unity. If compromise is what it takes to get that then I'll gladly settle for that.
We need somewhere we can stand together. We need each other. Not everyone is happy with our presence here, and honestly not all of us have given people reason to be.
I treated just as many non-mages as I did mages after the altercations after the funeral. Far too many of them victims of mages. I even had the misfortune to see a mage set a cook on fire. Provoked or not, we have be better than that. And if we can't be have something in place to see we answer for ourselves.
[A glare is fixed at said mage who is sat among his friends who were present when the cook had riled him enough to set her aflame. It can't be said he looks especially sorry for his actions.]
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[ She peers back to the mages that hold Daylen's glare, adding her own to the mix before picking out those involved in the incident she and Dorian happened upon that same night. Shameful behavior, really. ]
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We do need that. We need to have consequences for using magic against non-mages, and non-magical alternatives to defending ourselves.
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That kind of selfish behavior just makes everything worse for all of us, so I actually agree with you there. We can do better, even if it's just making sure that shit-stirring idiots know their actions aren't going to be unchecked. Regulating ourselves in that was is better than it being decided for us.
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Another reason us uniting is a good idea. We all come from different backgrounds and we can share so much with each other to stay safe and prove the good we can do here. With a council, there should always be at least one person on it you feel you can turn to for support.
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Maybe the Dalish have thought of something to help your dreams. You and I could speak on it.
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The man named Oran, his words hit him particular hard though, enough that Sam just allows himself to fade between the voices. That is a legitimate fear, and while the Templars were a way to handle it, it didn't necessarily mean that they needed them in order to govern themselves.
Sighing, Sam just waits for the meeting to die down, listening intently all the same.]
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still-- )
To defend ourselves without magic is an important skill. Perhaps, if nothing else, we might exhaust our hot-headed young ones with a bit of new physicality.
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[ Throughout all this talk of what Circles are and should be, Dorian has remained pointedly silent. Tevinter, as usual, does things differently, but the Circle of Magi began in Minrathous, so it is an instinct to correct and be elitist about things he has to stifle. He isn't here to champion a country that is fundamentally broken.
But this is better territory. ]
Dispelling magics should also be technically harmless to drill. As far as rulings and punishments go-- well. I vote naughty mages be fed to Cassandra.
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They attempted to set a cook on fire, yes? Perhaps they ought to clean the hearth in the kitchens and mind it so that she will not be burnt where she works from the place where she would expect it. The brawlers- the training dummies are thrashed to bits quite often. Stuffing, restitching, mending- tedious work that needs doing but not many care to handle.
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Fitting and practical. I like that.