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"But we're needed more here. This threat may not be darkspawn but it's still a terrible one... still something which we can help to destroy. We can return when Corypheus and his allies are defeated." Still, he maybe gets what she's saying. It's just that he's much too centered on the Wardens first and foremost to see much wrong with that, with caring about preserving their reputation in the world.

Kain shrugs, not too bothered by the differences in approach. He just finds it important to act, rather than take so much time that it comes to be too late. "Of course we must learn their motivations, and anything else that may prevent a situation as what happened at the Palace... we must learn of them, so we can soon afterward finish them off. We just shouldn't take too long to discover what we need to know."

"Such a lofty opinion you hold of your order!" She puts a laugh in her voice, all the better to speak of it later to someone else who'll no doubt find it most interesting. "You do not think you could well be the very key to our undoing once again? We have only your word to go upon these days. A Warden's word holds as much weight as wind after all that has been said and done since your arrival here."

To say nothing of the viper harboured in their midst. A Warden matter they said, as if the world did not set itself aflame for a man deciding he would make the choice for all others.

"Charging in blindly to learn all that we might is not without risk itself. You do not face mindless creatures driven by the taint in their blood now." Her voice drops as she speaks for who truly enjoys remembering darkspawn or travels through the Deep Roads? "You face men of flesh and blood, far darker and more cunning creatures compared to what a Grey Warden is usually accustomed to."

It's one of those things Kain just believes in, wholeheartedly. He's more devout in many ways to the order than even Andraste herself. He knows of its faults, but... the good it does outweighs that, to him. "Then we must work to redeem ourselves, if that's what it takes. I know something about this sort of matter, on a more... personal level. So I'm willing to do whatever it takes to aid in that task of making amends."

Though... it's no easy path, and it may take a long time. He's prepared as he'll ever be for this.

"I wouldn't risk such a thing. A blind charge, that is... we must have a strategy to it. We must be deliberate. But we must act, whatever may happen." He sighs, feeling weary at the moment. "That's... true. Sometimes it really is much easier to face darkspawn than anything or anyone else."

"Can you all agree on what redemption is? Would all the Wardens agree that redemption is necessary, even those who make their home in Skyhold I wonder. I believe that there are words said, about defeating a Blight, what is done when there is one." But will Kain say it, she wonders, or will she have to let it hang instead.

Not all in the world can agree on what is good or evil, what is better or worse. In a time such as this Morrigan can hardly believe that all the Wardens can share that camp without tearing themselves to pieces. One day whatever keeps them working together will end and the result will not be a pleasant one to see.

Dealing with Corypheus after what he's done to them (and yet they have only the word of the Wardens to take in this instance, how can anyone be sure if the Wardens are free of his influence for certain) and they are not in their element. "Does all this make you wish for a return to simpler times?"

"Maybe not all of us will agree... but can any large organization ever be in complete agreement at all times? Can the mages all agree, for instance? We must move forward anyway despite that. We have no choice." If nothing else, he'll do his best as one individual representing them. Even if he fails, he'll have fought his hardest to achieve that redemption. "There will always be some other threat to fight, even between times of Blight. Our order always has a place."

Though the fact that Wardens are susceptible to corruption and being controlled is... definitely something that still deeply unsettles Kain. He's been through blood magic control, he doesn't need to experience this sort of thing again. "Sometimes, I wish we could... Though I also wonder if things were ever that much simpler."

"The mages are fools who willingly place themselves within another Circle, playing nice with the Templars. They make their beds and learn not a single lesson from the past." Morrigan scoffs, venom colouring her words for the few she has met who take no part in it any of it all are just that: few. "When all Blights are ended you will have no place but the tales and pages of history. To become memory. We know how many Old God's there are, how many Blights there have been." Relics they will be, sooner rather than later she thinks if their ways do not change.

"There are not records?" She asks not for herself but Kain doesn't need to know that.

"I agree that it shouldn't revert back to exactly how it was, and that the mages ought to maintain control over their fate... but that's for the mages to work out for themselves. You don't think they're capable of making a good decision that gives them both freedom and discipline?" He's still never sure what he thinks on the question of Circles. In theory, it's a good idea, but one which needs to be seriously overhauled. He knows a mage or two who actually benefited from them, and his best friend is one of the rare good-hearted folks in the Templars with noble intentions. But he also knows it's not so simple, that some Circles are just full of horror stories and Templars abusing their power. Difficult. It really can't be as it was before though, that much is certain.

"I'm prepared for that. I only hope to do something worthy of making my story fit among the other legendary Wardens. If it means my sacrifice... so be it. What other choice do we have? That's the role we fulfill." Here's Kain and his ever-fatalistic view of the world.

"Yes, of course there are records. But I meant that more in a... general personal sense. Many people pine for the 'good old days', when I doubt it was ever so good or easy. Many just wish for something they know... the future is always so uncertain by comparison."

"History has proven that they are not. As you are not a mage and I am, a mage who has known no restrictions upon her life, taught to fear what they are able to do instead of reveling in them. You are a warrior, tis not a thing you can ever claim to truly know. If history is not heeded, history shall repeat itself. Look to the elves. Arlathan was lost and the elves were no longer their own masters. The Dales were lost and the elves are still no longer their own masters." Wynne is likely furious somewhere by the Maker's side at Morrigan using her own words from years ago like this but Morrigan had turned them against her anyway so she wins old woman. The Circles revolted and Morrigan is here, alive, watching it all, and Wynne is not.

It takes a great deal of effort not to roll her eyes though her mouth straightens into a thin line. "Shall it be Garahel or Cousland then?" By the way, fucking Cousland. Ask any of them that actually had to be around him during the Blight.

"The future is there, though the world does like to haul itself closer to the end every so often as some of us drag it back by the scruff to tell it not today. You will do as any Warden does and go where you all will go if battle above ground does not take you first. A great many would yearn for such simplicity and knowing."

"I suppose it's hard to think of it being any other way, with the Circles having been such a fact of life for so long, for so many... but I promise you, I don't mean to step into this matter any more than speculating. I don't know what's best for the mages. It's for all of you to decide. I certainly wouldn't want some non-warrior trying to tell me how to hold a sword, after all." The Circle question is more complicated, of course, but the comparison is close enough. He'd not really want to poke his head into that business... other than perhaps supporting Inessa in particular, in whatever decision she prefers. "Is there no hope to learn from the past at all?" It doesn't sound too good, though, and he probably should know better than to expect much positivity from Morrigan.

Kain shrugs. "Even making a name at all in the tales of Wardens somewhere is enough, though... I certainly wouldn't mind dying a true hero as Garahel and his griffon did..." He raises an eyebrow. Yes, he is curious. "What was it like, fighting beside Warden Cousland?"

"Death in battle or death of the Calling... I do like knowing it's undoubtedly going to be one of those options. I guess that does make my future pretty certain." Though it's just a matter of time, of when exactly it'll happen.

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