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sulahnan ([personal profile] sulahnan) wrote in [community profile] faderift2020-10-04 12:01 am

A Matter of Reputation

WHO: Athessa, Byerly, Mhavos, Silver
WHAT: Talking about Propaganda!
WHEN: Early Harvestmere
WHERE: Diplomacy Office
NOTES: Content warnings, OOC notes, links to other relevant posts, etc.




Mhavos made the appointment, so who knows what Byerly is expecting from this meeting. Athessa actually sits normally in her chair, though whatever energy that usually bids her to sit improperly manifests in her leg bouncing up and down.

It's one thing to pay Byerly a visit, and another entirely to be talking to him in his professional capacity as Lord Ambassador.

murderbaby: (003)

[personal profile] murderbaby 2020-10-05 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Mhavos nods, crossing his legs in front of the cushy chair he's in. His feet barely touch the floor. "Our intention is for it to be as political as it is inspirational."
bouchonne: (drunken pontificating)

[personal profile] bouchonne 2020-10-06 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
"I see," By says, trying not to mention that he tends to find things that are overtly political to be rather...well. Off-putting. Athessa also seems like an odd choice for inspiration, given that she's generally pretty unassuming, but, well...That's what an author is for, he supposes.

"Well, I won't know if you're writing something objectionable till you've written it. Give me the drafts, and I'll take the censor's quill to it."
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[personal profile] murderbaby 2020-10-06 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Mhavos keeps himself focused, shrugging slightly. "That sounds like rather more work for you."

He doesn't like the idea of someone having complete editorial power over anything, for various idealistic reasons he has no current interest in discussing. On the matter of Elven stories in the hands of humans, that's pure nonsense. It will just turn into an human story, for humans.

Saying that aloud is also nonsense, unfortunately. Appealing to other arguments is, in Mhavos' opinion, generally best.

"Surely you can think of ways you wouldn't want Riftwatch to be portrayed."
bouchonne: (ummm?????)

[personal profile] bouchonne 2020-10-06 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
All right, that seems rather suspicious. His brows draw together.

"Certainly," he says, his voice mild. "I don't want Riftwatch to be portrayed as a secret cabal of squid-creatures stuffed inside of human-, elf-, dwarf- and qunari-shaped suits. There are a multitude of ways this could go sideways; are you requesting that I anticipate them all?"
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[personal profile] murderbaby 2020-10-06 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
Mhavos defers to Athessa on this one, who's more less said what Mhavos would have. He nods, encouragingly.
bouchonne: (attentive)

[personal profile] bouchonne 2020-10-07 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
He looks at her with a slight tilt to his head. "What is the point of it, Athessa?" he asks. "Looking to incite an elven uprising? Looking to just provide some comfort in a rather grim world?"
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[personal profile] murderbaby 2020-10-07 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Mhavos again defers to Athessa, nodding softly, because anything he says at this point will be pointed and unhelpful.
bouchonne: (side-eye)

[personal profile] bouchonne 2020-10-07 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
"So it is not intended to help the war effort?"
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[personal profile] murderbaby 2020-10-07 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"Everything published during a war is about the war, Serah." Mhavos says placidly, "we know what we want to say: elves have a place in organizations helping the war. Look at this elf, who has done so. We want to know if there is something you do not wish to be said about such organizations. Accordingly, we are asking you what you would not wish to tell these people."
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[personal profile] bouchonne 2020-10-07 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
By's eyes flick over to Mhavos. His voice, abruptly, becomes quite pleasant, which Athessa will, of course, recognize means that he's quite annoyed.

"My thanks, good man," he replies warmly. "I'd lost track of why you were here."

Then his eyes come back to Athessa, and he loses that false warmth to speak more frankly. The annoyance certainly is not directed at her.

"You can publish this without my permission," he says. "I don't have chains on every printing press in Kirkwall. Or you can bring me into the process. But I can't precisely anticipate what might be said that I'd object to until it's been said. I'm nearly all-knowing and all-seeing, but I'm not quite there yet." A shrug. "Let me review the final version, or tell me to fuck off."
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[personal profile] murderbaby 2020-10-07 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Mhavos has no idea what Byerly's shift in tone means, he only knows the words weren't kind, and if that's the worst thing that happens today, everyone will be just fine. Again, he sits in silence, another nod, because why argue with a noble? Athessa is doing what she must, and that is fine, but two uppity elves do not help their case.
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[personal profile] bouchonne 2020-10-07 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"What a leading question, dear Athessa," he says a little dryly, but there are no teeth to it. Then he says, "If you want to know what I think: I think that said Orlesian masks will not turn their attention to such a tract. It might be read in some of the more liberal salons, but said salons would already have pre-formed opinions about elven rights, in favor. Those against it would dismiss it out of hand for coming from an elf."

A breath out, and he drums his fingers on the table. "As for the benefits...First, I think you are likely setting your expectations a bit too high. Twenty thousand eyeballs is dreadfully ambitious. In my experience, tracts are transient and quickly trampled into the mud, especially if they don't even have dirty pictures in them. Though I'm certainly no judge of elvish matters. You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone with less of a sense of the needs of your people, I fear."
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[personal profile] murderbaby 2020-10-08 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
In Mhavos' mind, the issue is cut and dry. They're not going to make any further leeway without annoying a head of their organization. They should take what they have, and be happy they didn't get an outright decree to stop.

After all, Byerly has never demanded final editorial rights.

Mhavos nods once more. "Thank you, serah. If editing in post is what you think best, we'll acquiesce as best we can."

He's expecting a sharp glare from Athessa, but he can explain himself later.
bouchonne: (hmmm?)

[personal profile] bouchonne 2020-10-08 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Byerly's tone is quite pleasant in return. "Very good speaking with you, good fellow."

And then he turns his attention back to Athessa and continues the conversation in a more normal tone of voice. Evidently, Mhavos has been dismissed, while Athessa still has his attention. "So then this was Bastien's idea? Or did he simply encourage it?"
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[personal profile] murderbaby 2020-10-08 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Mhavos nods courteously, and stays put, intending only to leave if Athessa asks. As far as he's aware, he's here for moral support against a shared enemy: nobility, no matter where they're from. He's found most of Riftwatch's leadership to be amenable, and remembers Byerly with some vague sense of fondness, the giving of gifts and assurances against prejudice, but clearly that time is gone.

And that's simply the way of it, with nobility. You live on their timetable, in their memories, not the other way around.

"It was our idea," Mhavos says softly. "I suggested you belonged in a book, you wanted to push the idea forward. I'll do what is needed to keep the project on track."
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[personal profile] bouchonne 2020-10-08 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
"And what is your heart's desire, then?" By asks, turning his gaze towards Mhavos. Athessa - He can guess, particularly given how self-conscious and reluctant she seems to be. "What do you want to get out of it?"

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