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Anders ([personal profile] justice_is_blond) wrote in [community profile] faderift2016-02-24 02:26 pm

[Closed] This isn't even my final form

WHO: Anders and close CR
WHAT: Detlef makes his last appearance for some goodbyes in case, Anders gives some warnings, and basically he tries to prepare.
WHEN: Around this time, a little backdated for the ride, but generally 24th-ish
WHERE: Ride back from EDL and in Skyhold
NOTES: Anders.




[ooc: This is various starters for Detlef's end and Anders warning some friends and admitting things to another. If you'd like a starter, ping me at Nadat on plurk and I'll put one together!]

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[personal profile] twelvelabours 2016-02-25 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Herc straightens up at the sound of his name. There's a mabari asleep nearby, undignified as possible, sprawled on its back and tongue lolling out, and Herc shakes his head at the dog as he sets down the sword he was polishing and steps forward. "That'd be me. Just 'Herc' is fine."

A nod at Nate, and even if he's not smiling, there's an openness and a warmth to his expression and the way he moves. He's an old soldier, worn down, but he's not been turned harsh by it, and that's something.

"How can I help you?"
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[personal profile] twelvelabours 2016-02-25 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
"Such as it is," he replies with a bit of a wry expression. Things were complicated for the Grey Wardens, right about now, moreso than usual. Still, the stranger's observation has his holding himself a little straighter. Not necessarily all that noticeably, and the shift isn't really a conscience thing, just a change from a most casual posture to that of a soldier. He's been that for so long, though, he's not sure he'd know how to be anything else.

Assumed names, leaving the Wardens, other crimes. Herc's clenches, just barely and he inhales, slow and careful. "Technically," he starts, reply slow and thought out, "we're all of us Wardens that left. But it doesn't sound like those were the same circumstances for you." Not with how he's drawing attention to it, to crimes and a false name, and Herc's manner is settling into something more serious and more severe.

What would Stacker do, now?

"Let's walk," he starts, tilting his head a bit so they can make their way up the stairs and to the ramparts, ensuring a little more privacy.
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[personal profile] twelvelabours 2016-02-25 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Bleeding Templars. It's not that Herc has a particular issue with them, all told. They're sword to a duty, just as Wardens are, and he's not so naive as to think that all mages are guiltless, innocent people. There are mages he'd trust with his life (has, many times over, Kaidan and Bethany among them) and then there were the ones that'd get so desperate as to do whatever they thought necessary. Desperate, or maybe just greedy and ambitious, whatever the web of emotions and motivations had to be to get a person to embrace blood magic and control others, steal away the control of their own minds and bodies. There's mages and there's mages, just as there are Templars and Templars. Some are good, honourable, and some are so bent and twisted that they'd mar the names of too many of their fellows.

As they reach the top of the stairs and the stranger explains further, Herc feels an uneasy twist in his gut.

"They had no business doing that." Obvious, perhaps, but there's an edge of anger in his tone, as calm as he seems to be. The Grey Wardens had a duty as sacred as the Templars, though not nearly so self-righteous and glorified.

"Let me get this straight." Just a moment. "You escaped the Templars, and just never came back? You gave up on the Wardens being able to protect you or have some parley with the Templars to settle the issue and look after one of their own, just like that?"

Maybe he can understand it. The man had killed, but he had killed in self defence, even if he was an apostate - plenty of Grey Wardens were conscripted, and they still stood together. It was their way. "We don't abandon our fellow wardens."
Edited 2016-02-25 04:04 (UTC)
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[personal profile] twelvelabours 2016-02-25 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
To say that's disappointing to hear would be just about the biggest bloody understatement of all time. Herc's hands rest at his hips and he looks up at the sky for a moment, never mind the harsh light, mouth clamped shut to spare Nate and his friend - whose name he hasn't even asked for yet, he realises - the anger that'd spill forth if he let himself speak too soon.

Finally, tightly, "That is not what the Wardens are meant to be." Not that desperate, not reduced to that kind of cruelty against their own, not involved in mage politics. If Loghain Mac Tir and Rendon Howe hadn't slaughtered so many of them at Ostagar, it might not ever have been like that, but Loghain's been one of them as some sort of punishment-redemption and Nathaniel's father is long dead. Nothing can be done to change what they did, not what this man has endured, and Herc looks to the stranger for a moment before turning his gaze on Nathaniel.

"We've had a lot of runs together, Nate." I'm trusting you, here, is written into his tone, gaze careful as he awaits Nathaniel's confirmation, denial or revision of this man's story. "What have you got to say about it?"

He won't apologise to this stranger, not yet. Not before he knows its true. And if it is? Well, it's just another testament to how bad things have been for so long, for the ways they let themselves get undermined and weakened until this many of them fled to Skyhold.
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[personal profile] pinprick 2016-02-25 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's as bad as he says, ser," Nathaniel confirms quietly. "I was there when a Templar lured him into a trap, after witnessing his conscription before the Queen of Ferelden. She claimed that the Chantry's authority overrode the crown, and attacked us all. Fought to the death. And he'd done no worse than annoy the Templars. I thought she was a lone zealot, till we learned about Rolan."
Edited 2016-02-25 15:28 (UTC)
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[personal profile] twelvelabours 2016-02-26 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
A long silence follows. It's a lot to think about, to digest, and Herc exhales a long, slow breath.

"Maker," he finally manages, rubbing his forehead with the heel of his thumb. Another look to Nate, and he nods. "It's acceptable, far as I can figure it. I'm sorry they weren't there for you." Well, no, that's not quite right, is it? "I'm sorry we weren't there for you. Even with things that bad, Grey Wardens stand together."

It seemed a laughable thing to say, what Grey Wardens should do and how they should have solidarity, in such circumstances as these, but Herc believes in doing what's right. He believes in doing it no matter the cost, whether it was his own life, whether it was his best friend's or his son's that hung in the balance. To be a Grey Warden meant sacrifice for the sake of the world, not for the sake of your personal happiness or satisfaction.

"So, do I take it you want to rejoin the ranks? Can't say this is the best time to be a Warden," he adds a little dryly though there's a certain warmth that sneaks in, as his arms cross over his chest, "But as far as I'm concerned, you're one of us. One of our own."

Which leads him to, "And there was something else you wanted to talk to me about, wasn't there? Though I might ask for your actual name, not your fake one."

Still running from templars, probably. Can't blame a man for caution.
Edited 2016-02-26 01:23 (UTC)
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finally a reason to use this hilarious angry face

[personal profile] twelvelabours 2016-02-26 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Put him in a hat, fuck his life sideways and call him the Divine.



Suffice to say there's a pause before he gathers up his thoughts. He's not sure there's an adequate way to gather up his thoughts, in fact, arms still crossed and fingers digging hard into his skin, pressure leaving it white, while his face drains to a grey pallor.

"Anders," he grinds out. "Guy who blew up the Kirkwall Chantry. Killed a lot of innocent people, from what I hear."

Any of the progress we've made towards freedom, Andraste's teeth. "You won't hurt the Mage Council? That's real gratifying to hear," Herc growls out, arms finally uncrossing as he takes a couple of steps away from Anders, turning his back on him before rounding back to face him. "You made people more afraid of mages, not less."

He speaks low, quiet, because yelling this from the ramparts isn't going to go any better. "I'm not defending what was going on in Kirkwall, but don't act like you're doing this because somehow it'll be better for mages."

Seething about it isn't going to get this settled, and Herc checks himself, stilling and looking Anders in the eyes, even if Anders doesn't return the gaze. If the man's killed as a Grey Warden, what'll that mean for the order? Will it just set up Anders as a martyr? And if Herc makes the decision to execute one of their own on his own, what would the repercussions be for their group here?

And a look at Nate, jaw clenched. "How many other Wardens know?"
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[personal profile] pinprick 2016-02-26 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Nathaniel is increasingly glad of Herc, that he's taking his anger out in a healthy way, being as rational as is possible when faced with this situation. He tics his chin up when Herc addresses him.

"Bethany Hawke," he says, "Velanna, and probably Kaisa Daesun, ser." He glances at Anders. "Anyone else?"

Best to be honest and up front. If Herc starts getting ideas of actually executing Anders, Nathaniel will volunteer more.
Edited 2016-02-26 02:34 (UTC)
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[personal profile] pinprick 2016-02-26 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
"Ser," Nathaniel says suddenly, coming forward to take Anders' shoulder, "Anders is coming clean because it's the right thing to do. I know how that sounds, but we're Wardens. We all of us know a man can change."

He squeezes Anders' shoulder and watches Herc, eyes pleading. They have, all of them, changed. Some for the better, some simply diverting their blood-thirst in an acceptable direction like Velanna or Kaisa. But they were all given that chance, except for Anders.
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[personal profile] twelvelabours 2016-02-26 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's lucky Nate steps in. Not so much because Herc was in danger of decking Anders (as much as he might want to in this present second), but it helps draw focus. Helps remind him of who he is, what they all are.

(All right, maybe it does help him not lay into Anders more, because that comment about being gone was obnoxious, at best. Self-righteous mongrel.)

"That we do," he replies, tightly. He saw his brother change for the worst, or heard of it at least, of his brother abandoning men in battle. Wetting his lips, Herc bites down on his tongue and looks between the two men. One he trusts with his life, and the other he trusts to make a really satisfying thud sound when Herc throws him over the bloody ramparts. (He wont, but it's a tempting thought.)

"And this isn't a decision just for me. If this is about how a man can change," and he gives Nate a significant don't you make me regret this look, "then the others should have a chance to hear you out, and to speak up. Whatever the decision, we're doing right by the Wardens."

But he really, really doesn't want to give Anders the satisfaction of being a martyr, as much as he's sure plenty of people here would find equal satisfaction in taking off his head. "We're going to have to announce this to the Inquisition."

What a blast that'll be.
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[personal profile] twelvelabours 2016-02-26 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
A curt nod, and Herc's pulling away, taking a moment to look up at the sky and the Frostbacks stretching out as he grabs his sending crystal from his pocket.

"All right, then. I'll get the word out. We'll see where it goes from there. Suffice to say, if you run now, I'll come after your head myself."

Herc nods to both of them, and moves further along the ramparts to record the message, leaning forward against the stone and tapping his crustal against it for long moments before he starts. What a mess.